Anti Copying?

  • edza101
    9th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    I know for a while people have suggested anti-copying code. This would consist of some sort of automated system which took down saves identical to others, regarding date of course!

     

    I know mods have said that if they wanted this to happen then they would have implemented it. The rules (#9) say that someone must not claim others work as their own, so surely this would reduce the incidence of this occuring.

     

    tl;dr: copying is against the rules, why dont you make robots to stop it.

  • jacob1
    9th Apr 2014 Developer 3 Permalink
    Making a robot to stop copying sounds really complicated, it's much easier to just prevent it in game. The bots would have to know all the originals, and be constantly decompressing and searching saves to determine if they are the same as many others. Preventing it in game is easy, you can just disable the upload button on other people's saves, and also save author information whenever you save a local save / stamp, and if you reload something that isn't yours, it disables the upload button too. This should prevent most copying effectively I think, but it's just not something we want to do. Many people do want their saves copied, they either made it for other people to use or just don't mind people using pieces of their saves with credit. Another thing is that it's easily circumvented. All you have to do is comment out a little code. Or in the case of my mod, I probably just wouldn't add in the code at all.

    The smallish amount of copying going on doesn't justify preventing people from doing this, it would get in the way too often.
  • NF
    10th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @jacob1 (View Post)

     This just sounds too complicated, making a bot that does this function.

  • greymatter
    10th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink
    @NUCLEAR_FOX (View Post)

    jacob1:

    Making a robot to stop copying sounds really complicated, it's much easier to just prevent it in game..

    That's exactly what he said?
  • CeeJayBee
    10th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @greymatter (View Post)

     Seems to be a bad case of tldritis

  • h4zardz1
    10th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink
    @jacob1 (View Post)
    yeah, even you can do that,most of the robot built is really bad in the work. what if...
    1.anyone edit and done their new thing by copying other?
    2.anyone who "restamp" (stamps something then stamp it again, or even doing it one by one)?
    3.anyone who stamped it, see it and rebuild it by zero again?
    4.anyone "wipe and put it back" (like someone put a machine that splits thing, then stamping and put it back one by one)? (similar to 2)
  • CeeJayBee
    10th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink
  • zBuilder
    11th Apr 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    jacob1:

    Making a robot to stop copying sounds really complicated, it's much easier to just prevent it in game. The bots would have to know all the originals, and be constantly decompressing and searching saves to determine if they are the same as many others. Preventing it in game is easy, you can just disable the upload button on other people's saves, and also save author information whenever you save a local save / stamp, and if you reload something that isn't yours, it disables the upload button too. This should prevent most copying effectively I think, but it's just not something we want to do. Many people do want their saves copied, they either made it for other people to use or just don't mind people using pieces of their saves with credit. Another thing is that it's easily circumvented. All you have to do is comment out a little code. Or in the case of my mod, I probably just wouldn't add in the code at all.

    The smallish amount of copying going on doesn't justify preventing people from doing this, it would get in the way too often.

     

    if saves were prevented from being re-uploaded based on author field, stamps would probably also need to be disabled on that save(through a flag of some sort?) to stop someone from just making a stamp of the save.

  • jacob1
    11th Apr 2014 Developer 0 Permalink
    @zBuilder (View Post)
    stamps are just a normal save with a smaller size, so it's the same method to save author information in there too. But that brings up some problems, with stamps you can't know for sure whether it actually belongs to someone. Maybe they cleared the screen, or drew something themselves. Also it would be annoying if you erased everything with the brush, drew some complicated thing, and were then unable to save or stamp it because it thinks someone else made it.