Multiplayer Moderation?

  • NewTrain64
    8th Dec 2015 Member 1 Permalink

    Move this to appropiate topic, I posted this in help as it seems the most appropiate as of writing this.

     

    After getting the best thing since moving solids (TPTMP) I've seem to encouner daily problems.

     

    The first ones are little kids (usually in groups of 3 in the lobby) are drawing "wood 'sculptures' with 'soap' gushing out of them" and trollers.

     

    One particular problem is selfish people (kids) who tend to reply everything in ridiculous answers or the person's only vocabulary is "sorry (sarcasm)", "hi", "sup", and "lol".

     

    One person just a few minutes ago did a invisible DEST portal into my partition of the sandbox. Of course, followed by a sarcastic brainless "sorry" followed by a "lol".

     

    In some cases a person will do a water equilization client crash (turn on water equilization, make the borders into WALL and spam WATR causing 95% of people in the server to crash). Though its anoying to those with potatoes as I and some others can rejoin the server within seconds.

     

    I was hoping there is something we can do in order to remove trolls, selfish people, and "wood 'sculptures' with 'soap' gushing out of them" makers, perhaps a request moderator, LUA thingys that limit what they can do, vote kick, or a blacklist?

    Edited 6 times by NewTrain64. Last: 8th Dec 2015
  • jacob1
    8th Dec 2015 Developer 0 Permalink
    Sorry, but trolls definitely can be a problem on tpt multiplayer. The main issue is that unless you have an actual moderator online watching what is being drawn all the time, you can't really do much. Usually (probably at least >50% of the time) I am watching the chat and can respond to complaints (by either joining or just doing the kick / ban then). Today I was really busy working on a final project for one of my classes though, so didn't see it until now.

    If you see trolls again, either just ask if i'm there, or do /msg jacob1 something, and even though it will say i'm not online I will still see it.

    Another method of dealing with trolls is to create a private channel. If there is someone else on tptmp that isn't trolling you want to play with, ask them to /join somechan. The person who has been in any channel the longest becomes the "owner" / moderator, and can /kick people, set it to /private, and /invite other players. See /shelp and /slist for a list of server side commands, also /help and /list for client side ones (/kick is client side, those other two are server side).

    If I hear about people drawing "wooden sculptures", they'll probably be kicked / banned for a day. People who invade your space or blow everything up are a bit less obvious how to deal with, but if multiple people are really annoyed by someone I can kick / temp ban them too. Dealing with lag is more difficult, I wouldn't really want to disable water equalization.

    So basically, try requesting a moderator, maybe one will appear out of thin air :). cracker64 is the other one that may respond if you say his name (we can send global messages or messages specific to the lobby / other channels).

    TPTMP 1.0 also adds in a really cool new form of moderation. People can be given "moderator" status which applies even in the lobby, and can use the /stab command to prevent someone from drawing or affecting the simulation in any way. Basically, they can only chat. This won't be released until either I fix the server side which isn't finished, or until TPT 91.0 comes out. I think /stab and this new kind of moderation will really help, so hopefully it can be finished soon (maybe I can finish it over Christmas break).
    Edited once by jacob1. Last: 8th Dec 2015
  • Mrprocom
    8th Dec 2015 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @NewTrain64 (View Post)
    Being able to vote who should be kicked is bad. If there were 3 trolls and 1 normal user for example, the 3 trolls would be able to vote the normal user and cause him to get kicked even though the normal user did nothing.

    @jacob1 (View Post)
    Why not /quiet instead of /stab? /quiet sounds more serious and makes much more sense.
  • NewTrain64
    8th Dec 2015 Member 0 Permalink

    @jacob1 (View Post)

    Thanks. Hopefully I can take those words to an advantage over the trolls, selfish people that has special eyes that can only see their creations, bomb element,s and the "clear page" button, and nasty drawings gushing out "soap" makers. I'm new to TPT so I never knew that you can do messaging from the Application to the website.

     

    As much as I like being in a private channel in peace, I'd like to ineract with others like doing a Co-op operating x power plant, or blowing up y city with z-destructabomb9000, RP, or even just chatting while making gadgets (that aren't "wood scupltures" with gushing "soap").

     

    @Mrprocom (View Post)

    True, but we can have a blacklist for repeat offenders and I can instantly rejoin under 5 to 10 seconds if they do this. Oh wait, that would mean they can too.

    Edited 4 times by NewTrain64. Last: 8th Dec 2015
  • jacob1
    8th Dec 2015 Developer 0 Permalink
    @Mrprocom (View Post)
    Well there's also /mute to block someone from chatting too (also you can do both to someone at the same time! lol).

    @NewTrain64 (View Post)
    Yay. So hopefully you don't have any more trolls to deal with, or i'm there to deal with them :P
  • NewTrain64
    8th Dec 2015 Member 0 Permalink

     jacob1:

    @Mrprocom (View Post)
    Well there's also /mute to block someone from chatting too (also you can do both to someone at the same time! lol).

    But /mute is useless as they can both draw messages or use signs, and it doesn't actually stop them from trolling as cussing in the chat is nonexsistent.

    Edited once by NewTrain64. Last: 8th Dec 2015
  • jacob1
    8th Dec 2015 Developer 1 Permalink
    @NewTrain64 (View Post)
    When combined with /stab, you can prevent someone from doing anything at all. /stab prevents doing anything besides chatting, and /mute prevents chatting.

    Anyway, both of those are unfinished commands, they don't exist yet. For now I have to manually deal with trolls.