Density Scale Debate

  • alecnotalex
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    Alright, so my density scale made the front page. But, although I had enough supporters to make it there, a lot of people think it doesn't work, measures weight, so on and so forth. This is where you can try to convince me and the general public that you are right.
    So, tell your opinion on:
    1. What does it measure?
    2. Does it work?
    3. What other problems do you have with it?

  • cctvdude99
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    @alecnotalex
    People say it doesn't go above 35d, but if you put SNOW in it you get 50d.

    1. Density;
    2. Yes;
    3. None.
  • alecnotalex
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    @cctvdude99 (View Post)
    Correct! You won a brand new car!

  • cctvdude99
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    @alecnotalex
    Yay! What car is it? :D
  • alecnotalex
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    A 1990 minivan!
  • cctvdude99
    6th Jul 2011 Member 0 Permalink
    @alecnotalex
    ... Hurray..?
  • boxmein
    6th Jul 2011 Former Staff 0 Permalink
    lol I figured out how to post <img> and stuff like this!
  • jacksonmj
    6th Jul 2011 Developer 0 Permalink
    It measures gravitational acceleration. In real life, this is the same for all materials. In TPT it varies between materials.

    Here is a list of all non-zero gravitational acceleration values in TPT (measured in pixels per frame^2): https://gist.github.com/9c9222069a3916049319

    If you turn on debug mode (press 'd'), the acceleration due to newtonian gravity will be displayed in the top right hand corner (unless your mouse is on top of a particle). Particles will hover wherever their vertical accelerations due to newtonian and normal gravity are equal.

    It's slightly more complicated when using more than a few particles, because TPT doesn't conserve momentum. The place where the accelerations balance may be anywhere between the top and bottom edges of a block of particles at rest.


    Edit:
    Actually, I should really say "it measures something mathematically related to gravitational acceleration".
    For a field caused by a point mass, gravitational acceleration is proportional to distance- 2. Obviously, the WHOL isn't a point mass, but distance- 2 probably isn't too far off the real answer.
    So it's measuring (approximately) gravitational acceleration- 0.5
    Edited by jacksonmj, 2011-07-04 17:09:41
  • Vou
    6th Jul 2011 Banned 0 Permalink
    This post is hidden because the user is banned
  • jacksonmj
    6th Jul 2011 Developer 0 Permalink
    The closest thing TPT has to density is a value which tells it which elements displace which other ones. (In the code this is called 'weight', but it's not really an accurate name, and the values are just a ranking, not proportional to a real life property)

    To measure this, you could make a column filled with different powders and liquids, and the place an element stops will vary according to the 'weight'.

    Choosing the elements would be complicated, due to possible reactions.
    Here's an uncalibrated proof of concept, which doesn't work for all elements:


    And here's some weight values: https://gist.github.com/32ac4e485142b5572852
    Edited by jacksonmj, 2011-07-04 17:56:55