Move INSL and TUNG to solids

  • JMBuilder
    21st Jul 2020 Member 1 Permalink

    I've always found it a bit odd how these two "elements" were tossed into electronics. Their function in electronic builds is more limited than solids like TTAN and GOLD.

     

    From what I've seen, INSL is more commonly used to protect things from radioactive particles, contain PROT, and block heat, and TUNG is really only useful as a heat shield since its electric heating properties are so rarely used.

  • BluBubblz
    22nd Jul 2020 Member 0 Permalink

    How about the element being in more than one category? For example, INSL in Electrical as insulator, in solids as solid, and in Radioactive as insulator for NEUT and stuff like that.

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    I prefer TTAN over TUNG because TTAN blocks air pressure, and is not as brittle as TUNG which breaks into BRMT under pressure. It's kind of annoying to switch between electrical and solids because I use TTAN as basic conductor.

    How about moving TTAN to Electronics, or adding TTAN to Electronics so it is available in both Solids and Electrical?

    That'd be pretty cool!

    Edited once by BlueBlood. Last: 22nd Jul 2020
  • MachineMan
    22nd Jul 2020 Member 1 Permalink

    TUNG actually breaks under rapid changes in pressure.  It can handle high pressure as long as it got there slowly.  However, I do agree that TUNG and INSL should not be moved to the solids section.  They're on the electronics section for a reason.

  • N2H4
    22nd Jul 2020 Member 0 Permalink

    I disagree. From my experience, INSL is used in heat distribution in electronics and TUNG is used in high temperature electronics where other metals would melt. I've rarely seen TUNG used for other purposes, and INSL, although commonly used for other things, is likely used in electronics more.

  • LBPHacker
    22nd Jul 2020 Developer 0 Permalink
    ^ Up. Anyway, if you really don't like the way it is now, you can achieve what you want by adding these two lines to your autorun.lua:
    elem.property(elem.DEFAULT_PT_INSL, "MenuSection", elem.SC_SOLIDS)
    elem.property(elem.DEFAULT_PT_TUNG, "MenuSection", elem.SC_SOLIDS)
    Edited once by LBPHacker. Last: 22nd Jul 2020
  • ReallyJustDont
    23rd Jul 2020 Member 0 Permalink

    I agree with TUNG being moved to solids. INSL not so much, since it's unique in that it can block 1-pixel gaps that SPRK would normally be able to cross. SHLD and its variants, as well as FRME and certain powered materials, block heat without being flammable, so they would be better to control heat distribution. While TUNG can be used as a conductive material, it is brittle (as its description says) and heats up when sparked (like METL).

  • jacob1
    24th Jul 2020 Developer 0 Permalink
    Another consideration is that I don't like scrolling menus. I try to limit the amount of menus that scroll. Solids is already a very full menu.