We're hitting a wall here. -elmnt sggstn

  • tmo97
    17th Oct 2014 Banned 3 Permalink
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  • bowserinator
    18th Oct 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    True. (But I made a self cooling layered alloy that's pressure blocking and can easily withstand fusion) 

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  • minecraft-physics
    18th Oct 2014 Member 1 Permalink
    I suggested something like this a while ago... It got a lot of support, and am not really sure why they added DRAY instead of this
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  • G-LinuxorU
    19th Oct 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @minecraft-physics (View Post)

     >instead of this
    I don't think it was added instead of, I think Dray was just really easy to make. It's kinda like Pstn+Cray, they probably stitched together the two elements already existing code to create it.

    That said, I do love the idea of ceramics. :)

    @tmo97 (View Post)

     >We have ENOUGH electronics.
    We never have enough electronics.

  • jacob1
    19th Oct 2014 Developer 0 Permalink
    @minecraft-physics (View Post)
    hmm, ceramics sounds like a good idea, I don't know why we don't have any strong elements. I think tugsten has the highest IRL melting temp though, so for ceramics to melt hotter would be a bit unrealistic (but maybe it doesn't matter ...). I remember reading the ceramics suggestion before but I never really said anything about it then forgot. There have been many awesome suggestions over the years that were never added, GRVT and DRAY aren't the best elements but they are just what I decided to code due to being unique :P.
    (so that's a maybe on ceramics if / when tpt updates again)

    _____
    I tend to ignore almost every element suggestion though. It almost feels like i'm adding an element just for the sake of adding one and it probably won't turn out very good, then everyone will over-analyze it. This suggestion here seems like a rant with a "add an element with a 4200C melting point" + some other stuff at the end, ceramics sounds a bit better :P.

    Also i'd like to point out there is no such thing as "the devs", i'm just a person who is busy all the time and only at random points will be motivated to add something to tpt. It's not like I keep a list of elements to add or that we need to add; or a list of previously rejected elements that other devs said they would never add. As for other devs ... only Simon has added any elements recently, his last one was May 2013 :P (latest elements are CRAY; PSTN; FRME; GOLD; TUNG; PSNS; PROT; VIRS; VRSS; VRSG; GRVT; and DRAY)
  • G-LinuxorU
    19th Oct 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @jacob1 (View Post)
    i have some ideas for ceramics;
    a;
    make it's melting point around 4200c, but make it only able to raise tempurature by 10c/frame. that way it can come into direct contact with plasma without immediately melting.
    (which is what I think is the main problem with current destructable materials, a single pixel of PLSM and it's all over)
    b;
    as pressure increases, increase the melting point of the ceramic material. at 250 units of pressure make it's melting point maybe around 8,000c, that way cooling should still be possible.

    of course for idea B that's assuming no amount of pressure can destroy the ceramic, perhaps after a certain amount of pressure, maybe 1-200, the melting point either cut's off or start's going back down.

  • jward212
    19th Oct 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    well things don't need to have a high melting point to be heat resistant take aerogel for an example its an awsome insultor, and u'll be heating it up with a blow torch for ages. Same with refactory brick keeps the heat in and the cold out(very non-scientific way to put it)

     

    Also a increase of pressure can mean the solid state can with stand high temp as G-linuxor said, so mix that with boyl u've got something almost unbreakable

  • jacob1
    19th Oct 2014 Developer 0 Permalink
    @G-LinuxorU (View Post)
    ok that's interesting. Maybe I could have it start off lower than 4200C even, but at higher pressures its melting point goes up to like 5 or 6000C. Elements like WATR already do this, just not on such a large scale. Part a would be a little harder but i'm sure it's possible.