Periodic Table of Elements discussion and such suggestions

  • Rconover
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    Ok lets start with the basics, I hope this will be a main focal point for adding new elements to Powder Toy with Simon's cooperation.

    First off:

    Hydrogen: a fairly useful tool, it is combustible only in the presence of oxygen, it should either under certain circumstances:

    Form Dihydrogen Monoxide vs Hydroxide: The only way to form either one of these without forming much of the other is through 1 of the 2 options: to form water, more energy (in the form of temperature) is required to form the bonds and 2) to form Hydroxide one must have a lower energy level than what is required to make water, thus the 3rd bond won't adhere and thus you have HO (hydroxide)

    Hydrogen when bombarded with Neutrons can for Deuterium (Heavy hydrogen/ Deuterium oxide: Heavy Water) and Tritium (Radioactive isotope of Hydrogen)

    More information about this element can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVzb0fzHsk

    Carbon: Another very important tool, you can burn it in the form of Coal, and you can forget about Graphite, I don't really see it being implemented as being a useful form of Carbon. The Last form of Carbon is Diamond, you can make diamond under a massive amount of Heat and Pressure, and I don't mean a little, I mean just shy of the pressure that a Nuclear Reaction creates. Carbon when bonded with Oxygen can form Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide, but Carbon Monoxide isn't important right now; Carbon Dioxide can be used as a flame retardant, it can be cooled down to a liquid state through either cooling it or pressurizing it, this is what you find in common house hold fire extinguishers. Carbon can be bonded with Hydrogen and Oxygen to form sugars, we don't need every form of Sugars out there, probably just a simple sugar of glucose or something. Sugars can be used to promote plant growth and form crystalline structures. Carbon and Hydrogen can also be used to form Hydrocarbons, I suggest to form many of the other more complex hydrocarbons you will require the use of more energy, the more energy, the more complex the hydrocarbon and its bonds (ie: Methane, Ethane, Butane, Propane... I suggest not implementing other types of bonds such as Alkenes or Alkynes as that will become too complex for the endeavor). With Carbon bonded with Oxygen in Hydrocarbons you should simply invest in just Ethers. Hydrocarbons can be used to make Oil or other fuels in the game. When an OH (hydroxide) is mixed in a hydrocarbon, you generally get an Alcohol, alcohols are important in many different ways, they can be used as a fuel like Ethanol (2 carbons with an OH).

    More Carbon Information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmC8Dg4n-ZA

    Nitrogen: Another important diatomic element, Nitrogen can be used in a gaseous form can be used as a flame retardant, when bonded with Oxygen you can get your Nitrous you find in the game already, when bonded with Hydrogen you can get Ammonium and Ammonia, which are common house hold Bases that can be used to counter the acid. I don't know how Nitrogen acts with Carbon though. Nitrogen can be used with hydrogen in Complex Hydrocarbons to form Amides, Amines and Esters.

    More Nitrogen Information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvJ54kRpjg

    Chlorine: not as important as the others but it is useful for the creation of Hydrocarbons with a halide in them to form Halocarbons (Hydrocarbons with a group 17 halogen in it)

    More Chlorine Information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCfBl4rmh0

    Silicon: Used in many electrical applications, this Metaloid is used in all complex electrical devices. It is found in sand (sand is Silicon's oxidation)

    More Silicon Information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2aWO5cL410

    Copper, Iron, Tin, and Lead: some of the most common metals in our sociological world, Copper is a very good conductor, just shy of Silver and Gold. Copper is used in sculptures. It is also mixed (not bonded) with Tin to form Bronze (not brass: brass is copper with Zinc). Copper can be cooled down enough to form Super conductors. Iron can be used as a magnet of devices, when an electrical current is run through it, it makes an electromagnet, Iron's rust can be used for the creation of Thermite. With the mixing of some Carbon, Iron, and a bit of Magnesium, you get the all mighty Steel. Tin is a very viable heat insulator, it reflects heat incredibly and is used in oil fires by personal because it reflects so much heat, it is used in the manufacturing of tin foil and tin cans. Lead is used for many applications including in Nuclear Reactors where it can be used. Lead is very resistant to Acid because isn't very reactive.

    Copper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWvp_Z2kfYs&feature=channel
    Iron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01z4tnBbsL0
    Tin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEwCPJOP0Mg
    Lead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ERfPN5JLX8

    Magnesium: not really that important but it emits A LOT of light when it burns, used in steel making. Also used for igniting Thermite.

    More Magnesium Information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKkWdizutxI
  • alexthesax
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    acctually magnesium is important if you are going to do thermite, best way to ignite thermite
  • Rconover
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    alexthesax
    added
  • bchandark
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    How about an element that conducts instantaneously (like the conductive wall)?

    Or alternatively, to keep it real, an element that conducts electricity REALLY fast. I've done some research and the best I could come up with is Silver (already mentioned).

    Maybe there's something else?

    Simon, maybe make a sticky for all elements and wall suggestions.
  • Andrewrox
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    Wow, these elements would be considered quite complicated to make, but they are definitely great ideas, Rconover.
  • SirNancy
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    If you made hydrogen and chlorine you could break down Acid (possible HCL). It probably wouldnt be too useful but could have interesting applications.
  • Rconover
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    Andrewrox

    It appears that many of these things can be separated into different energy levels which they can occur.

    like with HO and H2O

    it requires less energy to create HO than H2O, so having the new temperature gauge is good and important.

    actually about all the hydrocarbon stuff.

    we can probably have 1 saturated hydrocarbon, and so much of 1 of everything.
  • Andrewrox
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    Rconover

    Yeah, the more i think about it the more I like these ideas. 1 of everything sounds great.
  • Rconover
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    1 of everything sounds fine
  • Rconover
    11th Jul 2010 Member 0 Permalink
    Actually, I think that all forms of carbon should be created except the multiple forms of hydrocarbons