FRAY TEMP Cap Reduced - Why?

  • OmegaSupreme
    20th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    I've noticed that when it comes to "Glitches" or "Interesting Feats" being discovered, As far as I know, I've just about single handedly had more of them Fixed by accident just about more that anyone, including:
    Infinite TEMP Bomb - TEMP BASED
    Explosive GEL - TMP BASED
    But I've noticed that the TEMP Cap of FRAY was reduced, Breaking my Nano-FRAY Rifle Save, Due to resetting its TEMP From 60000 to 9273.15, draStically reducing its fire rate, causing it to not break glass with over HALF of the POWDER Catagory Elements.

    Question: Why was this done? As far as I know, it only made My gun more powerful and it could be achieved without using the Console or Prop Tool (considering it could slightly higher as well), and it was Savable at that.

    The Point: It would be VERY USEFUL if put back in TPT (And it would fix my save)
  • EqualsThree
    20th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Use DEST. All my tanks use a 3x3 DEST round capable of penetrating any kind of armor/armour with ease, as long as it's destructable.

     

    Also, can i see your Nano Rifle save?

     

  • Ximon
    20th May 2012 Administrator 1 Permalink

    This is because the maximum temperature is 9999 K (or 9725 C), this has always been part of the temperature engine, and I don't know of any version where the temperature of FRAY would remain higher than 9999K

     

    The temperature cap of FRAY has not been changed, while you may be able to set it higher, it will always get reset to 9999K during simulation

     

    Edit: Come to think of it, I believe this may have actually occured, IIRC, the temperature of non-conductive elements did not reset and this was patched by savask.

     

    The temperature limit may be raised in the future and is mainly in place to make sure the temperature display has a good resolution at lower temperatures.

  • circovik
    23rd May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Yes it did happen from around the time when fray was introduced, it went up to around 60000. The new cap has also broken some of my saves.

  • Videogamer555
    23rd May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Ximon:

    This is because the maximum temperature is 9999 K (or 9725 C), this has always been part of the temperature engine, and I don't know of any version where the temperature of FRAY would remain higher than 9999K

     

    The temperature cap of FRAY has not been changed, while you may be able to set it higher, it will always get reset to 9999K during simulation

     

    Edit: Come to think of it, I believe this may have actually occured, IIRC, the temperature of non-conductive elements did not reset and this was patched by savask.

     

    The temperature limit may be raised in the future and is mainly in place to make sure the temperature display has a good resolution at lower temperatures.

     

     

    Why not add a dialog box where one could set their own upper and lower bounds of the temperature display, rather than having the bounds of the display tied directly to the bounds of the TPT engine itself. Lets say you are doing something that uses a narrow range of temperatures, you should be able to use an options dialog box to manually set the range for such a situation.

    Also it IS allowed to break saves when a save is based on a glitch which occured due to defective programming. Rather than asking the deves to RE-BREAK their code for the game, just so your save will work, a better thing to ask for is that it should be added as a feature (something maybe settable in the options menu).
  • Catelite
    23rd May 2012 Former Staff 0 Permalink

    If you absolutely must use a particular temperature range, it's not hard to do this yourself in the code, I'd imagine. :P

  • circovik
    26th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Just compress the fray for the same effect

  • plead-for-destruction
    26th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    @circovik (View Post)
    this topic was dying, why did you revive it?
  • tmo97
    18th Dec 2014 Banned 0 Permalink
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  • jacob1
    18th Dec 2014 Developer 0 Permalink
    @tmo97 (View Post)
    I don't see why it needs to be raised, not much happens at higher temperatures, and very few reactions are coded to work at anything higher than 5000C, they all just go straight to the maximum temperature.