Poll on Nuclear Fusion

  • jacob1
    25th May 2012 Developer 2 Permalink

    Catelite:

    Is Jacob1's change in the most recently published beta? I didn't see any difference when I tried it. o.o

     

    @Catelite (View Post)

     Yes, it is. It's almost the same, but there are some differences. All the particles are created at the same temperature, but before this the ELEC/NEUT/PHOT were created at room temperature, and the particle tht did the fusion was increased by thousands of degrees. The overall temperature of the reaction increases in a predictable way now.

    Oxygen fusion was also added. Put O2 around a large enough gravity source like GPMP at almost the maximum temperature and pressure, and it will create BRMT and SING. The amount of SING produced from CO2 fusion was greatly reduced (1/1000 chance)

    Also, it better prevents things like NBLE ionizing or H2 burning, those don't happen at high temperatures and don't use tmp anymore.

  • BoredInSchool
    25th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    I believe this should satisfy everybody now.

  • Catelite
    25th May 2012 Former Staff 0 Permalink

    You sure about that? I downloaded the most recent published beta and a ball of hydrogen instantly makes SING particles. xD Are you talking about the current Github or the current beta?

  • grandmaster
    25th May 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @BoredInSchool (View Post)

    My grammar isn't confusing you can clearly read what I wrote, also yes you can make them but without sing it's a hell of a lot easier that's why ;)

  • jacob1
    25th May 2012 Developer 0 Permalink

    @Catelite (View Post)

    If the initial temperature of the hydrogen was 9000C, then it will create SING. Try only having it at about 5000C - 7000C, it should go to the CO2 step and then stop. In my test in an open space I just did, no SING was produced (checked using my lua script in the latest beta). Also, you can use VOID(SING) now, but that might not be needed.

  • jacksonmj
    21st Jun 2012 Developer 1 Permalink
    Bump (no, not a necropost, the topic is still relevant and this post is on-topic)

    I've been playing with fusion while making changes to it to prevent it producing compressed particles. At the moment, O2 fusion is extremely difficult to achieve, because it produces SING which creates lots of negative pressure, which stops the fusion.

    VOID(SING) doesn't really help, because SING eats VOID.

    Personally, I agree that it violates how fusion actually works. Stars do not (at least, not to my knowledge) contain miniature black holes which zoom around eating large quantities of the star and preventing fusion from occurring.

    So should SING be completely removed from fusion?
  • sandstorm
    21st Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    perhaps it could be kept, but with an extremely reduced life...?

    *NOT IN CO2 FUSION*

  • Simon
    21st Jun 2012 Administrator 1 Permalink
    @jacksonmj (View Post)
    Yes, I agree that it should be removed.
  • Plasmoid
    21st Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Yes indeed, and while we're at it what about other fusion ideas...

  • jacob1
    21st Jun 2012 Developer 0 Permalink
    @jacksonmj (View Post)
    It would help with reactors, but make bombs weaker, but I already made most bombs weaker already, so I guess it doesn't matter if you take it out. One of the reasons oxygen fusion was added was to fix that problem, since it's optional and needs a Newtonian gravity source.

    Edit: What changes are you making? I hope you don't completely remove compression from it, because it just adds to the craziness of fusion, and is also realistic too, since stars are very compressed.

    @sandstorm (View Post)
    That's what BoredInSchool wanted originally, but it wouldn't work since SING gains life from eating things. Maybe a tmp value setting could be added to prevent this, or it could be removed.

    @Plasmoid (View Post)
    I don't think we need any more fusion changes, it's already big enough, and the person who came up with the original idea might not like it being changed