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@BoredInSchool (View Post)
Sounds reasonable.
But heavier atom needs higher temperature and higher pressure, I suppose there's no difference between hydrogen fusion and noble fusion...
But as what @therocketeer said, the cycle makes it works, we don't have to make TPT REAL. However carbon dioxide is makeup with oxygen and carbon, while oxygen is much heavier than those atoms before, it makes no sense
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@baizuo (View Post)
Perhaps when deut undergoes a fission event, it has a chance of creating a hydrogen particle. -
@baizuo (View Post)
actually, as I discovered from various experiments (the man's way at finding things out, not just looking a the source) that HYGN requires 50+ pressure and 3000c+ to fuse. NBLE however requires 100+ pressure and ~ 4900 to fuse. CO2 requires ALOT of pressure and heat, something like 200+ and 9000c, which I think is pretty unacheiveble without some sort of wall, hence a small star would die. -
@therocketeer (View Post)
What's most strange: the reaction is not a chain reaction... if you offer a 9000C room, the fusion would eat a lot of heat but not generate more, which, in my case, lower the temperature to ~ 6000C -
@baizuo (View Post)
yeah... I found that, seemed like more of an endothermic reaction than fusion. In a real star, there comes a point where it takes more energy to fuse things than the energy given off (which I think is iron, if my memory banks serve correctly). Dunno if that is what it's simulating though =/ XD -
Actually, that is (at least to a certain point) exactly what it is simulating. I also did it this way so that when, for example, HYGN is fused and creates nble, you can stop it if you ONLY want the HYGN to fuse. Smaller fusion processes will only fuse the HYGN and never get enough heat or pressure to start the NBLE fusion process, and same with NBLE and CO2. I wanted to keep fusion from always being a runaway, uncontrolled reaction. And @Baiuzo: hygn can fuse at 2000 and 50 pressure.
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@BoredInSchool (View Post)
okay, makes sense. Although, There was enough energy in the HYGN fusion experiment to begin the fusion of the NBLE produced, and same with CO2. -
BTW, I noticed a glitch with the fusion that was jacob1 fixed in his mod but was not fixed in the official beta. When nble fuses, it produces ELEC which then sparks nble around it, turning it into PLSM. This means that NBLE cannot fuse in the same way as hygn. So I recommend to the developers to make a property edit to NBLE: NBLE will not be ionized into PLSM by ELEC when the NBLE is above 6000 degrees. (not 5000 degrees, because I still want the cool effect that happens when low-temp(5000-6000) NBLE is sparked when it is fusing.
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@therocketeer (View Post)
The actual temps are:
H2: 2000C, 50 pressure (atm?)
NBLE: 5000C, 100 pressure
CO2: 9500C, 200 pressure
But H2 should be at least 2500/3000C or else a tiny bit may cool off just enough to be below 2000, causing it to be able to catch on fire and burn again.
@therocketeer (View Post)
The reason it does that is so you can control the reaction, if you want only one part to happen, you can decide to do that, and then heat it later to do the next part. The reason the temperature lowers is that it was hard to keep it stable and also allow you to control it. The particle that does the fusion increases in temperature up to 15000 degrees when CO2 does it, but tpt has temperature limits, and then the energy particles that are created cool it off, and so it starts to lose temperature. I decided it was too hard to find the perfect creation temperatures for all 3 reactions to work, and the way it does it now works fine most of the time.
@BoredInSchool (View Post)
I'm pretty sure it works exactly the same in both, but I did discover why that happens. When NBLE is created from H2 fusion, it sets its tmp to 1, preventing ionization. When you just draw NBLE, that never happens, and so fusion doesn't work. It should be based on temperature only, like how I prevented H2 burning, I will fix that. Also, NBLE is still sparked in my mod for some reason, but doesn't ionize, still creating that cool effect.
Edit: I think I might make change it a little. All the particles created would be exactly the same temp as the particle that did fusion, and that particle would increase in temp a little. This would make it look like energy was being created and make it much more controllable. -
@jacob1: Yes, that sounds good. However, you said that you will make the particles created rise in temp, keep it as close as possible to the guidelines in the suggestion thread so that it still works the way I envisioned it to work. Also, I have updated my other suggestion (U235) in the conversations tab.
