realistic electricity idea

  • bimmo_devices
    11th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I smell some induction ideas coming! yes, that's right - electromegnetism along with the new elements.

    This idea may give birth to real electronic components, such as coal=resistor (takes 2 or 3 life from the signal each pixel), amplifier designs, brightness variable lights, capacitors (?) and other more analog devices.

     

    oh, and there would be no SPRK - the wire, whatever it is, would store the value in the life variable. the surrounding elements would need access to each other's life value - and if one has a powered neighbour, it takes on that neighbours life - 1. Should this be instant? If so, there needs to be a recursive search when there is an update on the wire.

  • cylers
    11th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I contradicted it because there are a lot of better ideas that personally, I feel need implementation before this, its a neat thought but there are still holes in the current electricity element-wise and core features deserve more attention than a new electricity mode/concept.

  • nmd
    11th Apr 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    Wouldn't be better implemented as a new version of a sprk element then having new elements that change the nature of sprk?

    That way, this sprk that loses life could be used with all of the other things that conduct electricity already.

    I would call it rspk or something, as Jacob1 and rocketeer mentioned, It would be nice having this colored red and such to allude to redstone from minecraft.

    one could make slight modifications to current elements, like changing the ctype of btry to emit red spark, So useless elements would not need to be added in.

    and the most exciting part is if sprk and rspk could coexist in the same wire without effecting each other, then you could send multiple signals down one system, making more complex machines easier to create and reducing the complexity of current machines

    plus it could interact with the stuff in TPT in similar ways to sprk but differently, like having deut under an red electric signal split into hydrogen and oxygen or having nble ionize into cold flame.

     

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    I like it. Its probably not going to make it in, but I like it.

  • cylers
    11th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    that is a very good compilation of ideas, that could innovate TPT as we know it, having adverse effects on current elements makes it all the more attractive

  • jacob1
    11th Apr 2013 Developer 2 Permalink
    I always wanted it to be a separate element too, not just have an option. That way they could both exist. And I would try and make it affect almost all elements that SPRK does too, like maybe turning on and off things somehow depending on how much life it has (?).
    And things like repeaters and resistors that have already been mentioned would be needed too.

    I don't think it should travel along existing conductors though. Modifying METL, SPRK, and all the other elements to allow for them both to work at once would be hard, and real wires don't change to a completely different element when being conducted through anyway. So this would probably be some type of wire that changes color depending on how much charge (life) is has.
  • bimmo_devices
    11th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    What do you think of induction? I have read already that a magnetic layer has been turned down - but could it be possible to somehow make one wire - perhaps called coil - induce current in another? The induced current could be calculated with the width of the two interacting coils (like tesla coil). A new layer would simplify the job, allowing complex, multi-coil systems.

  • cyberdragon
    12th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Jacob...brilliant plan to take off this idea, and to implement extremely realistic electricity. First, this power sould be spawned and absobed by elements called negetive and positive respectively. These elements would spawn/absorb spark by a certain adjustable amount (life = voltage, brightness/tmp = current) If a spark encouters a positive point that cannot absorb it entirely and cannot travel elsewhere, it will back up in the wire and render it no longer conductive.

         Also, you can increase, decrease, store, transfer, exc. the life/tmp of spark by resistors, capacitors, inductors (can be used to make transformers). Also a possibility would be direct and alternating current. This is more simple than you think. Direct current would be a continuos charge that would seep down wires. Alternating current would pulse like normal spark. Normal spark would Either A) behave like alternating current with infinate life or B) only work on the existing elements while real electricity would have a seperate but equal set. If the real alternating current encoutered a diode only half of the pulses would make it through and it's life would be reduced by a small amount. 

    Also, loads could be made like heater wire (produces heat only), filament wire (produces heat, photons, and electrons), and copies of the existing elements (possibly with minium spark life/tmp required to activate).

     

    P.S. I know it's very extensive but, we could make awesome things with it. Welcome to my world. :P

    NOTE: The properties and power points would have to be implemented first. But you could implement other elements for it over time, that way it's less complicated.

  • cylers
    12th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    another completely unrelated idea is counter, an element that counts how many sparks have hit it and after so many sparks it releases spark to nscn or pscn, it would help with the massive switch circuits that we have to make

  • Dutchdude
    12th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I think it might be usefull as an extra wire element but not change the entire electricity stuff.

  • wes12321
    14th Apr 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    this. is. EPIC! I Really Like This, i was ticked off when i realized that my college level electronics class labs wouldn't work on TPT. i was bummed out, but i thought that someone would want to change this, and i was right!