self-sustaining fusion

  • RaconTPT
    30th Aug 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    TL;DR: I'm trying to make a self-sustainable fusion reactor that generates heat & I need help finding a design that works. (ID:2927488)

     

     

    long version:
    (disclaimer: I'm not good at maths, I may need to correct my working a few more times)

    I did the maths (https://www.desmos.com/calculator/kgaye7tb7q) and worked out that the amount of heat generated from the fusion reactions: HYGN(22c) + heat_bank(4900c) -> HYGN(~4900c) -> NBLE+PLSM+NEUT+PHOT -> CO2+2PLSM+2NEUT+2PHOT can increase a 322part heat_bank (aka a small block of heac) by a minimum of about 31c per HYGN i react (which means that more HYGN can be added)

     

    The reaction requires:

    1. The NBLE does not loose it's extra heat. (loosing a little is fine though)

    2. The heat from the 7 products CO2+2PLSM+2NEUT+2PHOT is diffused with the heat_bank.

     

    I have gotten this chain reaction to work by using a large high pressure container, starting with 1 hot HYGN and then manually placing HYGNs in places hot enough places to fuse twice.

     

    The best I have gotten with a automated reactor however is an increase of 1.5c, which is allot less than the theoretical 31c.

    Edited 8 times by RaconTPT. Last: 31st Aug 2022
  • username90000
    31st Aug 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    hydrogen fusion that self sustaining is imposible but noble is posible and also i will recomend u use deuterium as first fuel and ignite it with neutrons and after electrons for get instantly hot hydrogen and pressure and also if u mean infinite fusion then u may try somehow make protons be extremly fast and create hydrogen noble or sing 
    but if u preheat hydrogen and make alot of insulation from ambient air and after fusion it may work

    but u may create 2 core fusion reactor where 1 core is for heat and core 2 is for fusion up to oxygen-bmtl

    this all because fusion is nerfed and heat that it creates is not enough for fusion so it is technicaly imposible to create self sustained fusion

    Edited 3 times by username90000. Last: 31st Aug 2022
  • RaconTPT
    31st Aug 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    I found out that it can (in theory) work on average. In the worse case scenario (fusion produces the lowest tempuratures: 750&1750), It will loose ~150J of heat energy.

    Edited 4 times by RaconTPT. Last: 31st Aug 2022
  • username90000
    1st Sep 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    i was trying to create self sustained fusion result from 1900 and a bit heat it goes to 2300 result it is extreme useless because noble fusion needs more heat so result it is imposible do noble fusion instead but better use deuterium electrons and neutrons

  • RidiculousChick
    28th Sep 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    @username90000 (View Post)

     one of my recent projects proved that wrong. by controlling hydrogen releasing, and using bizarre, you could in fact, make sustainable hydrogen fusion that will sustain the heat and pressure, and in my testing, the furnace temperature went from the initial 9000C to 9500C. my proj id (not advertising just showing example): https://powdertoy.co.uk/Browse/View.html?ID=2934334

  • ArolaunTech
    1st Oct 2022 Member 0 Permalink

    How about using countercurrent heat exchangers? They can easily heat up the hydrogen while cooling the NBLE down to only a few hundred degrees, and you can find some in those ultra-cool refrigerator designs.