FIRE heat

  • h4zardz1
    28th Jun 2014 Member 5 Permalink
    i would like to see if anything burns, the temperature by FIRE created by flammable elements (including COAL/BCOL and FUSE/FSEP) is increased/decreased, depending in the element temperature.
  • minecraft-physics
    28th Jun 2014 Member 1 Permalink
    I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense when you can cool something down by setting it on fire (try heating COAL to 2000°), but the problem with making it spawn fore at COAL's own temp + 200 is that it would heat up to max. temp incredibly quickly, melting through IRON and METL with ease.
    In real life combustion contributes heat energy to the system, but this heat is usually convected away by the air and surroundings before it reaches temperatures hot enough to melt steel. In TPT, heat conduction (even with ambient heat on) is nowhere near this realistic; meaning that COAL would turn into a plasma-spawning über-element rather than a nice simple way of achieving moderately high temperatures.

    Maybe if the temperature of the element is greater than the spawn temperature of FIRE/PLSM, then it spawns at the same temperature as the element? Not very realistic, but at least it's not cooling down...
  • Protcom
    28th Jun 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @minecraft-physics (View Post)

    From what I see you can cool elements with fire in real life because that fire can heat elements to a particular amount of temperature and stop.

    If you have an element that melt in very high temperature that fire can't reach, you can't melt it using fire because fire is able to heat things to a particular amount of temperature after that you need to use another tool that makes a super heated fire.

     

    If you put some water in the fridge (not that freezer) the water won't freeze but it will reach a particular amount of temperature.

     

    If you put a ball in an endless diagonal way if will speed up until a particular speed and stop until you make the way more diagonal then, it will speed up and stop speeding.

     

    That  is what I think but I like the idea of heating coal and ignite it will make a heat fire.

  • minecraft-physics
    28th Jun 2014 Member 2 Permalink
    @Protcom (View Post)
    ... I'm sorry, I really can't understand what you're saying- In real life, setting fire to coal will heat it up, not cool it down regardless of its temperature.
  • Protcom
    28th Jun 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @minecraft-physics (View Post)

    It's okay I am even not sure about example 1 but I am sure about example 2 and 3. I am NOT a scientist that saw an apple fall to the ground and asked why did it fall, WHAT do you want it to fly to the sky ? I wish it was a watermelon falled on his head and died. YOU MADE MY EDUCATION HARDER >:(.

  • minecraft-physics
    28th Jun 2014 Member 1 Permalink
  • h4zardz1
    28th Jun 2014 Member 0 Permalink
    @minecraft-physics (View Post)
    COAL/BCOL: temperature maximum from burning is 2000K.
    other flammable elements except FUSE: temperature maximum from burning is 700+((Flammable Root)round down *100)K.
    if surpassed maximum temperature from burning, it will not heat, nor it will cool down from burning.
    Edited once by h4zardz1. Last: 28th Jun 2014
  • tmo97
    1st Jul 2014 Banned 0 Permalink
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  • Sylvi
    1st Jul 2014 Moderator 2 Permalink

    @tmo97 (View Post)

     Probably due the fact most suggestions to elements would break a large part of saves.

  • techno156
    2nd Jul 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @minecraft-physics (View Post)

     Well, for some flammables, the evaporation caused by the flash point and resultant burning (alcohol in particular) would cause it to be cooled, as it evaporates...