JN29 - A very complicated new life type.

  • DanDuncombe
    21st Dec 2013 Member 6 Permalink

    Right - let's get this straight. It will not be just a decorative life type. It will serve a purpose indeed. Ideally it should be either: JvN29 Life type, or Nobili 32. I recommend Nobili because of three extra states allowing signal crossing.

     

    What is it?

    A new life type - when used properly, can carry signals, build more JN29 particles, hold long 'binary' signals in a very compact space, etc.

     

    Features:

    • No matter whether Nobili or JvN29 is used, the state number should be settable by either life or tmp or something like that.
    • It would not create extreme heat or cold.
    • States 13-16 should be able to make a spark if their direction is going into an adjacent nscn.
    • Sparks in pscn can set of 1 of the above fout states in adjacent cells of states 9-12.
    • This would allow possibly even more computing compactness in some situations than already exists!
    • Why choose this over Codd life? IMO this is just a bit more versatile.
    • The first state (0) would be empty space, so state 28 is actually the final state in JvN29.This is because programs like Golly refer to background as state 1 for a cell.
    • Nobili could be called NO32, JvN29 would be JN29.
    • The basic writable particle, before life/tmp is set would be state 1.
    • It should actually be under electronics, even though it is technically a cellular automata that should go under Life particles.
    • Each different state needs a different colour - look at the ones in Golly to see what I mean.
    • If that is not possible then a new menu section will have to be added for it.

     

    Why use it at all? We already have stuff for computing!

    • This can do things like for every 10 pulses in, let 1 out.
    • It would be unaffected by temperature and pressure, meaning it could be used in hot/high pressure and also cold/low pressure places without being affected.


    Here is a save showing what a 3 in 1 out counter would be like in size and colour:


    Here is a picture of a counter that after 6 inputs will output 1 (3 signals have already been inputted):

    JvN29 Counter

     


    Here is a video of a counter that after 9 inputs will output 1:

     

     

    Please do at least consider this - and it would only take up 1 slot in the elements menu.

    Edited 11 times by DanDuncombe. Last: 4th Jul 2014
  • KydonShadow
    21st Dec 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I do like the first idea. With the prop tool, it affects the particle you click plus all identical particles coming into contact with it.

  • DanDuncombe
    21st Dec 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Ah, thanks KydonShadow. I never new the all-touching-identical-particles thing was a feature.

  • DanDuncombe
    9th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    So,this idea is not going to be considered any more? It is not good enough?

  • Schneumer
    10th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @DanDuncombe (View Post)

     Well I don't really understand what it's for or what it does, seems like a bit complicated....

    Edit: "JN29-A very complicated new life type.".

    Derp.

    Edited once by Schneumer. Last: 10th Jan 2014
  • bimmo_devices
    10th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    Life types are really only good when there is an enormous space, like that provided by GOLLY Life simulator (I would recommend this simulator if you are interested). Both of these life forms are supprted by GOLLY (I believe) and they are quite interesting. I wouldn't mind having TPT JvN life.

  • h4zardz1
    13th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    wireworld+gol...... what will happen?

  • nijalninja98
    18th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @h4zardz1 (View Post)

     WWLD litterally is GOL, only it works with SPRK.

  • DanDuncombe
    20th Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    @Schneumer (View Post)

    Very complicated in the fact it has 29 states as opposed to about 3. It would be a bit like wireworld, but although gates would be less compact this can actually 'place' particles, meaning it could lay down jvn29 wires that could then be used to lay more wires, and other stuff. It could be used in liquid/gas valves, counters etc. Something like a 7-seg display would be rather difficult though, needing the correct signals to create a segment or delete it.

     

     Is this idea scrapped then, or can I continue supporting it? 

  • KydonShadow
    22nd Jan 2014 Member 0 Permalink

    By all means, please keep supporting it! Keep adding stuff to it, making progress on it. Whatever works for you, cuz this is actually the first GOOD elem suggestion in a while.