@Schneumer (View Post)

You are absolutely correct about the fact that parensts should take care of the rebellious problem early, but it also has something to do with the household in which they're raised. For some kids to be rebellious in the way they act, the reason why could be the fact that their father/mother/guardian physically or sexually abused them. Because of the feeling of it being so violent, the children may grow up to be the same way. In the same case scenario, the child might grow up to be shy and kept to itself. Which way the child goes depends on many things: how the other guardian reacts to this, how the child is affected by other's reactions to their actions, etc.

Even if there wasn't a problem with physical/sexual abuse, the child can grow up to rebellious too. Another case to consider is the fact that the father/mother/guardian may not care too much about the child or may "spoil" the child too much. Int this case, The child grows up really freely, but has a great chance of making the wrong choices because there is no father/mother/guardian influence in their actions and so the only real influence to whether their actions are good are not is society itself. Mainly who the child meets within the time it grows up. If the father/mother/guardian does happen to care a little bit or want to correct something about the child, It can be an extremely hard process to do because the child is used to being liberal about its own things and it sees the father/mother/guardian as someone who is trying to restrict their liberty.

These were only two case studies I have put out. There are many more out there, but you must find the cause. I like to think to myself when thinking about these things, "theres always a way to do it or a reason why"

This also ties into the behavior of normal adults and why they act the way they are. It's because of the way they were raised. For adults of the case 2, they can become very stubborn and whatever opinion they have formed over the years they grew up would be very hard to change within their thoughts because it is so ingrained. So when society or the government puts pressure on them that is against their views, they can become very defensive. See how it ties in?

What is this I dont even.

Then don't.

@Schneumer (View Post)

However, if you think about it, haven't you ever seen a polite and still young kid? Surely you have, or at least some shy kid who isn't a real pain in the butt. This renders the claim invalid, although no scientific evidence is present.

Bull. Without any sort of evidence about what causes those kids to be like that, you can't say that it renders the claim invalid that normal kids should go through a rebellious stage.

The kids could very well suffer from abuse or mental issues that keep them complacent. Or they might just have better parents. We don't know. The point is that if the kids are not normal in a psychological sense, then they can't be used as valid data when considering the upbringing of a normal child.

Your entire post is just worthless speculation. Unless you have evidence for your claims then don't think we are going to take you seriously.

THe thing is, ALL Children learn how to be "normal" somehow. It all depends on how he/she/it learns how to be. For example, If a 5 year old child sees a 15 year old adolescent yelling at his parents, how do you think that the 5 year old child is going to act towards his parents? If all he knows is what he saw, then the 5 year old could very well yell at his parents too.

Why on earth are you kids discussing parenting?

edit:better yet,without using any resources to support your conclusions

@Cacophony (View Post)

You have no reason why to call us kids. You yourself don't have evidence to prove it. Your arguement is invalid. next!

@therocketeer (View Post)

 What do cows have to do with this? Besides the fact that the mother may be one.

@lefouduroi (View Post)

 Well, he has a reason, spelling and acting like one.