Electrical Storage Fluid

  • cyberdragon
    30th Jun 2013 Member 5 Permalink

    Something I came up with. Not only could this be used in Powder Toy, since I'm taking advanced chemistry next year, I want to make it work in real life too.

     

    What is it:

    A reusable fluid (liquid) that stores an electrical charge.

     

    name:

    Betasine

    beta-sine, beta -> beta particles -> electrons, sine -> popular chemical suffix

    (I couldn't think of anything better, please give feedback)

     

     

    How it would work:

    Basically a specialized molocule that when mixed with a charged electrolyte would somehow store these charged particles until their charge is released creating electricity. But, unlike other transport molocules, this would be highly reactive and violently release the energy contained within the ionic bonds when disturbed creating electricity. There would be positive and negative types, and maybe even types that can hold various amounts of charge (ionization states, different electrolytes). Dangerous, probably. Volitile in air, maybe. (keep it in vacuum).

     

    For Powder Toy:

    Since we can't give it a charged electrolyte, we'd have to mix it with the electrolyte then charge it. This would allow each particle to store one spark. (this might have to be transfered between all charged particles, as in, if a charged particle gets sparked it would pass the spark to an uncharged particle) When it discharges it would release the electrolyte and deactivate.

     

    Uses:

    liquid electrical transport (through pipes)

    capacitors

    electrical discharge weapons

     

    Chemical Challanges:

    synthesis

    stability / reactions with electrodes

    toxisity/safe disposal

     

    Coding Challenges:

    What should happen to the electrolyte if there is no room during discharge?

    (note: the electrolyte in powder toy would make it easier to code, and alow it to be activated/deactivated)

    What other properties should the electrolyte have other than conductivity?

     

     

    Note to moderators: If it is determined that this is not suitable for Powder Toy, please move this thread to General section. It would still have relevance as a chemical.

     

    Think of Powder Toy not as a building game, but as an interactive drawing game. Therefore, flat is king.

  • Bloodloon7
    1st Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    This sounds confusing in real life, but good in powder toy. Is it a liquid, which instead of losing it's electrical charge, holds it untell it can conduct, correct?

  • Catelite
    1st Jul 2013 Former Staff 0 Permalink

    We don't usually 'determine' if ideas are not suitable, because of the wide variety of possible stuff in the game, but most of the time if something is too far contrived from normal to be amusing to play with, no one will bother to create it.

  • cyberdragon
    2nd Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @Bloodloon7 (View Post)

     Yes...exactly.

  • Bloodloon7
    2nd Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Sounds awesome.

  • cyberdragon
    4th Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    I wander if the chemical formulas for neurotransmitters would help. They allow the tranfer of charged ions between brain cells, but this would be alot stronger. It could also possibly only conduct to receptors to make it electrically safer (the non-weaponry kind of betasine). HOWEVER, this may classify it as a neurotoxin giving it the same precautions as snake venom. O_O

     

    Although, this could work in Powder Toy, but would only conducting to a certain material ruin it's potential uses?

  • lorddeath
    13th Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    *Bump* This thread is too cool. Love the idea.

  • bimmo_devices
    13th Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @cyberdragon (View Post)

    Biology is usually too complicated and fragile for practical use. Neurotransmitters are probably made of a bunch of proteins. There has to be a better way!

  • cyberdragon
    13th Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    -_- Yep...I just looked up some and this big one only carries 100 mV. Way too weak.

     

    It would still be quite complicated, but a demonstration experiment could be to fill a lyden jar with it and charge it. Then pour the liquid into another lyden jar and the charge would be transfered. (note, these lyden jars would have no inner foil, allowing the charge to be stored in the liquid itself)

     

  • lorddeath
    15th Jul 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Hmm, this is quite interesting. I love the idea of this. Hope It might be implimented.