Black Filt
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for those of you who don't know, in the version of TPT just before the current version there was a filt mode that was black. it was achieved with the PROP tool/console by setting the ctype of filt to the sum of 2^30 (1073741824)
now when you do the "set ctype filt 1073741824" command the filt's color doesn't change, and if you set the ctype of filt to (2^30)-1 (1073741823) it turns grey, but not quite black.
im not sure if the original 2^30 ctype filt turning black was a bug, but, i would REALLY love it if it could come back. black filt is very aesthetically pleasing when you want to hide the functions of cray/bray. :) -
What's wrong with decorations? And why would you need to hide the functions of cray/bray? Is there perhaps some way of making ARAY/CRAY operation look aesthetically pleasing without needing to hide it?
Also, http://tpt.io/.267036
Edited once by jacksonmj. Last: 22nd May 2014 -
there's nothing wrong with decorations, it'd be nice if it was as simple as decorating filt black and having it decorate the bray to be black but that doesn't work either.
>Invisible particles make it very hard to see how saves work, and that is not something I'd like to encourage.
i can understand that, i'm not necassarily asking for filt itself to be black but the black "mode" is really cool.
>And why would you need to hide the functions of cray/bray?
check this out id:1482765
it'd be possible to hide all of the BTRY lying around and much more importantly the display itself would not need to flash, so-long as DECO is turned on. (it would be very aesthetically pleasing no?)
>Is there perhaps some way of making ARAY/CRAY operation look aesthetically pleasing without needing to hide it?
i dunno, is there? black filt filled the role pretty well if i do say so myself. -
"as simple as decorating filt black and having it decorate the bray to be black" - actually, that might not be a bad idea.
My concern with the idea in http://tpt.io/.267110 is that there could be confusion between colour from ctype and colour from deco (e.g. "Why don't photons refract correctly when I've set their colour using decorated FILT?", or "why don't the other FILT modes like subtract colour work on ARAY beams after I've set the colour using decorated FILT?").
One option is to add another FILT mode ("mode" as in tmp value) which decorates everything black. But causing decorated black FILT to apply black deco to ARAY/CRAY beams sounds far simpler to use.
I think in most cases, the only time you would decorate FILT black is when you want to hide the electronics, so applying black deco to the beams that have gone through it seems sensible. Anyone have any objections to this?
I find that watching saves operate can be aesthetically pleasing, but generally only if you can follow what's going on in the save and the save has been designed to make the operation look aesthetically pleasing. I guess it's a bit harder to do that with current TPT electronics where everything is instead designed for small size and minimum number of frames to operate, and (if you don't understand what's going on) all you see is data flashing around all over the place seemingly at random. -
>I think in most cases, the only time you would decorate FILT black is when you want to hide the electronics, so applying black deco to the beams that have gone through it seems sensible. Anyone have any objections to this?
functionally i dont see a difference, that would be cool. would it work with pscn-type bray as well? -
it would be great if the proposed filt deco mode worked with any deco color panted on it. that would make color printing way better.
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Added, and yes it does work with PSCN-type BRAY too. The black deco is turned on when the ARAY/CRAY beam passes through FILT that is decorated black, and off if the beam passes through some FILT that isn't decorated black.
Not sure what relevant point you're trying to make there...
The original way of making black BRAY was to use invalid wavelengths, and that black colour could not be disabled by turning off deco.
My concern with the idea in http://tpt.io/.267110 is that there could be confusion between colour from ctype and colour from deco (e.g. "Why don't photons refract correctly when I've set their colour using decorated FILT?", or "why don't the other FILT modes like subtract colour work on ARAY beams after I've set the colour using decorated FILT?").
Therefore I've only implemented it for black deco.
Edited once by jacksonmj. Last: 22nd May 2014 -
That actually brings up a good question. Why dont the add and subtract functions work on solids generated thru filter by CRAY?
