Dioxygen Difluoride

  • darth_tundra
    25th Jun 2013 Member 2 Permalink

    Here's with the hope that this finds its way to someone important and empowered.

     

    So, getting straight to the point, any of my fellow Pyromaniacs out there familiar with Fluorochemistry may also be familiar with the wonderful little compound Dioxygen Difluoride. If there was a good video of the stuff out there, I'd post it, but given that it is incredibly difficult to produce, store, and use, and also that the list of scientists who have been poisoned or blown up trying to work with it is staggeringly high, there is not one. To say the least, it is phenomenally reactive stuff, subject to adjectives such as "violently hideous" or "the Gas of Lucifer." In a nutshell, dioxygen difluoride "makes almost any organic substance ignite and explode at any temperature hotter than 300°F below zero." (Randall Munroe, http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/) To the curious sort, http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride.php 

    is also a fascinating article about it. And if you want its chemical properties, etc, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioxygen_difluoride.

    So tell me: am I not the only one who thinks that this sounds incredibly fun?

    Hence why I'm posting this. I think Dioxygen Difluoride would make a phenomenal addition to The Powder Toy's repetoire of wonderfully explosive substances, and I'm hoping a more competent programmer than I can figure out how to do so, because I really have no idea... In any case, good luck, stay awesome!

     

    Cheers!

  • xetalim
    25th Jun 2013 Member 2 Permalink
  • greymatter
    25th Jun 2013 Member 1 Permalink
    @darth_tundra (View Post)
    You will have to state it's uses if you want to get it into TPT. But I am searching for extremely unstable elements, and I'll put this up on my to-do list for my "greymatter's mod" that I'll work on as soon i get over with my exams.

    +1
    cheers.
  • Michael238
    25th Jun 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    @darth_tundra (View Post)

     So basically a gas that turns virtually everything else into FIRE?

  • Cacophony
    25th Jun 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    Feedback:

    >So...sort.

    Skip the fluff, it does nothing to make us support it.Don't give us links, we prefer that you take the time to list some of the properties. It shows that you actually put some work into your post.

     

    >So tell me: am I not the only one who thinks that this sounds incredibly fun?

    Except for greymatter and some others, yes.

     

    >Hence why I'm posting this. I think Dioxygen Difluoride would make a phenomenal addition to The Powder Toy's repetoire of wonderfully explosive substances, and I'm hoping a more competent programmer than I can figure out how to do so, because I really have no idea... In any case, good luck, stay awesome!

    We can already infer that you want this in Powder Toy. No need for the extra line.And for pete's sake,just say that the element would be a great addition to Powder Toy and ask if someone could program it. Big words do not make people like your suggestion; uses do. What would we use this for if it turns everything on fire?

     

    Conclusion: No, please add some uses.

  • darth_tundra
    25th Jun 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    I'm just suggesting a concept. If you think it's cool, do something with it. If not, whatever. What kind of things are you looking for as far as uses go? That seems very subjective to me - it's a sandbox mode style simulator. What you use what for is entirely what you want to do with it. If by uses you mean what does it do, well that seems obvious. It sets anything above -300 F on fire, which doesn't sound like much, but it doesn't seem much more complex than a lot of things in the simulator. And frankly, there aren't any practical applications for the stuff in the first place. 

     

    And concerning the particularly negative remarks to my presentation, I gave you links if YOU wanted to know more - that's up to you. If you just want to read that it's a gas that makes everything catch fire, be my guest, but if you're actually interested in it on a deeper level than "Things go boom" than be my guest, I've given you the links. Again, I'm bringing something to your knowledge, proposing a concept. If you like, feel free to pursue it, and that'd be brilliant. If not, it doesn't matter to me. And regarding your "Big Words" comment, some of us just talk like that, it's not intended to win people over.

  • cyberdragon
    25th Jun 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride

     

    is much better, it dissolves glass 

  • Cacophony
    25th Jun 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    @darth_tundra (View Post)

    Exactly.Given that this is a suggestion for an explosive, it's gonna get lost because of it has little use. I can think of power plants,bombs,guns, and flamethrowers as uses, but there are many, many other power sources for use that will give much more energy than your element.Bombs are a good use, but not a lot of good bombs destroy things with power, and guns usually use BOMB or DEST as ammo.Flamethrowes seem like a good use, but even then, there aren't a lot of them as saves.

     

    And please excuse me for the big words comment.People I've met that talk like you were usually frauds, idiots, or annoying psuedoscientists. Look,my writing style is that if you can reduce it to a few words but still be clear, then you use it.

     

    All I was asking for was that if you wanted support for your element, you should improve your post.(If I wasn't clear then, I am now.)No one likes walls of text or fluff,and no one likes a useless element. A messy post isn't good, and usually,a post that requires people to find information themselves gets little support. And why don't you give the abbreviation, color, and description of element in-game?

     

    EDIT:Wait, shouldn't this topic be in Feedback?

  • Sylvi
    25th Jun 2013 Moderator 2 Permalink

    @darth_tundra (View Post)

     Uses? It pains us to actually go off to research the Wikipedia or find out more than we need to about an element. Also not to mention some elements are better if you think outside the box with reactions, you should list the uses in future saves. Such as "glass etching designer" or "semiconductor creator".

     

    Simply giving us the idea that it is fun doesn't give developers the momentum needed to code out a hundred more lines. It has to have some sort of use or unique nature that might forward the game's development. In my opinion you've only shown it's a gas and has cool explosive effect.

     

    Pitch more to us in a smaller chunk. The elevator speech essentially.

  • darth_tundra
    25th Jun 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Well, it's no use arguing over it if it has no potential or no uses. But it's really cool stuff - that's undeniable. And I enjoy sharing that, especially if it's really cool stuff that explodes under unique conditions. So I'm not going to pitch the idea beyond this - again, there's really no point. Short of exploding, nobody really knows what it does, so I'm not going to try to think up an application that doesn't exist, or that has no applicability to TPT.