The Colour Perception Theory

  • Sylvi
    23rd Jan 2012 Moderator 0 Permalink
    For some reason someone thought of a good theory to think about today. The theory goes like this:
    Years we've been taught one light spectrum is let's say "blue". Well how do we know one colour shade is same from another in two people? Such as one shade in my vision could be a completely opposite view in yours.So we were raised to see that one shade as "blue", but we don't know what you see.
  • MasterMind555
    23rd Jan 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    @Lockheedmartin (View Post)
    Would it be depending on the mind of the person or their eyes?
  • Colt
    23rd Jan 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    Cohito ergo sum- I think therefore I am. I suspect this has gone unnoticed for so long because mankind is contempt with the idea that their perception of the world and surrounding environments is exactly as to how they percieve it. What your proposing is not a theory, but a hypothesis. At least it can become a hypothesis once tested multiple times. I think your wording is not as descriptive as it needs to be for me to properly explain. Because from what I am reading, this can be simply explained by the mutual agreement between to individuals through common comunication. "Look at the blue sign" says character one. Character two:"Yes I too see the blue sign." If they both identify the given object in an agreeable manner, doesn't that alone prove the "theory" wrong? If your talking about something other than what I described, please comment further on the subject. I think I know what you actually might be trying to describe, which I myself cannot properly comprehend enough to diagnose the proper way of how to proceed with a thorough explanation.
  • Sylvi
    23rd Jan 2012 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @MasterMind555 (View Post)
    Technically it's both. The issue here is that the shade from one person to another could possibly be different.
    @Colt (View Post)
    Define yellow. The issue is not so much as agreement. We were all taught one shade is this word/colour, but do we actually know if it's the same person to person? I could be seeing the shade of "blue" differently than you, but since I was told that shade I'm seeing differently than you is "blue" it's agreed upon it's "blue"
  • Colt
    23rd Jan 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    Please detail the keyword "shade" in a more in-depth fashion. If you were to say visual clarity was lacking greater in test subject one, and asked him to discuss his current visual range with test subject two, who's vision was better refined, it would be difficult, near impossible for test subject one to conclusively announce his faulty vision, by comparison to the second.test subject. Replace the words visual range with "shade" and the same occurance begins. Until someone creates a baseline for visual quality, in which a lack of shade magically becomes more apparent. This standard would be a way of determining a possible differential in shade perception. Think about ways similar experiments are created to diagnose occurances like such. :)

    EDIT: how are all things measured in a concious being? Through brainwaves and brain activity. I suppose several color patterns presented to a variety of subjects in a variety of manners while the subjects are being recorded for specific brainwave patterns could determine a difference.

  • Sylvi
    23rd Jan 2012 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @Colt (View Post)
    You're still not getting where this theory is going. I could be seeing one colour differently than you. That's the basic idea. There are no true colours. Which frustrate people because I don't know if your seeing my perception as pink as blue or green as red. We were told that one visual thing is that word.

    If you showed me what you say is "blue" I could be seeing it differently. Simply matching doesn't work because we were told this "colour" is blue.
  • Colt
    23rd Jan 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    Forget my last post, I was typing before I saw your first statement above mine. Sorry for the confusion.

    I find it crystal clear now, think about it how I describe it! You claim we were all taught the same at one time or another. When was that time Lockheedmartin? When? Of course, when we were young. Mentally incapable of deciding such things for our own. You brought up another good point: we can't learn things like that on our own. It requires some type of mentor, a teacher. If I was taught the word blue, but for an isolated test subject, a newborn child, was taught the "opposite" (there is no definition for the opposite of something that may or may not exist) as me, then later exposed to a series of colors besides the color white, of the area in which she was taught a standard testing language, while only being taught words from a source with no pictures or word references in the teaching context, and the color white as a standard testing color to avoid later denial of the results validicity, and only being taught —————forget it.

    TO TEST SOMETHING LIKE THIS YOU NEED A BASELINE COLOR SYSTEM TO TEST IT. WITHOUT A BASELINE THERE WILL BE NO PROPER WAY TO DETERMINE ONE PERSONS PERCEPTION FROM ANOTHER. COHITO ERGO SUM—I THINK THEREFORE I AM. I guess its something we will just have to continue to believe for ourselves. Humans were born limited. Its simply untestable. I'm sorry to say this but its true. Take what I'm saying and replace it with X, X being the only way to fully complete the equation. Does this make sense?

    Equation For Determination Of Color Perception Theory.
    Factors:
    X=Baseline for testing
    A=Subject one
    B=Subject two
    W=Way of comparing both subjects
    I=Result—difference or no difference in perception

    X+W distributed to (A+B)= I

    This is my formula for testing Color Perception.
  • Sylvi
    23rd Jan 2012 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @Colt (View Post)
    You're not seeing the part of "We were taught this one "colour" is this word. We would never know because we don't know if we see it differently, but was told it was a word. We were force into agreement of a spectrum to be this word. It's not so much agreement, but what you and I see as blue.
  • The-Con
    23rd Jan 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    Color blindness tests specifically test which colors people perceive and match to the words... If I saw colors in a different way to you, a color blindness test would pick that up ( whether it has to do with the mind or eyes.)
    So you could be seeing different to everyone else, but we and you would know how you differ.
    either I'm talking about the wrong thing, or you are all ignoring the obvious.)
  • Sylvi
    23rd Jan 2012 Moderator 0 Permalink
    @The-Con (View Post)
    Colorblindness could be disproved if we knew everyone saw colours differently. Someone seeing different colours told they are colorblind because they disagree with a colour word.So if we knew someone is colorblind or didn't we could actually teach them the shade they are seeing on front of them is this colour. Which leads to the possibility that anyone could be colorblind their whole life without knowing it.