I dont want it fixed. It was good the way it was until the idea of fixing compression came along! IMO, this fix should be made to accomodate fusion, and fusion shouldn't have to be ruined to accomodate this FIX!!!! The only thing I will allow to be changed in fusion is for a check to be implemented for the purpose of keeping more than 3 PLSM particles from being generated at the same place(giving a safe margin because if 3 PLSM are generated on top of 1 particle of HYGN or something, that still leaves a margin of 1-2 more stacked particles before BHOL is made). Return everything else(ELEC, PHOT, ect.) to normal.

BoredInSchool:

Ok, fine. remove SING from fusion and everyone will be happy. However, compression must not be removed from fusion. I am as stubborn as a partisan politician on this point. To answer the compression problem, compression = BHOL could be made an option(This is the idea I throw my support behind, and it could be put in realistic mode or something) or the compression limit could be raised to like 10 or 20 or another safe number, or particles like ELEC and PHOT could be excluded from compression(as in 6 stacked PHOT will not form BHOL). I however prefer the compression=BHOL as an option, and it would take a lot of persuasion to get me to change my mind.

@circovik: Seriously? What ideas did you have that involved keeping HYGN, NBLE, CO2, or OXYG at extreme temperatures and pressures?

 

 I had made gas tanks and reactor cores that were kept above the threshhold of fusion. I had a couple more ideas but I can't remember them.

@jacob1: I think your fix is better.

@circovik: ummm........ok.

@jacob1 (View Post)

 I would still rather have gpmp formed in fusion than sing.

That way oxegen can naturally fuse togeather and create bmtl by iteslf.

and sing is really annoying, not just in reactions but in bombs also, because in any fusion bomb the end result will most likely be an empty screen.

edit: I ment gbmb... those two names are too simular :/

jacksonmj:

Bump (no, not a necropost, the topic is still relevant and this post is on-topic)

I've been playing with fusion while making changes to it to prevent it producing compressed particles. At the moment, O2 fusion is extremely difficult to achieve, because it produces SING which creates lots of negative pressure, which stops the fusion.

VOID(SING) doesn't really help, because SING eats VOID.

Personally, I agree that it violates how fusion actually works. Stars do not (at least, not to my knowledge) contain miniature black holes which zoom around eating large quantities of the star and preventing fusion from occurring.

So should SING be completely removed from fusion?

In real life, large stars will rapidly fuse all of their hydrogen, and then fuse heavier elements up until iron, but then the collapse into a black hole. I believe that the SING being produced by fusion in the Powder Toy is to simulate this final stage.

@jacob1: do not limit SING production any more than you already have. Period, end of story. This is where I make my stand.

@Michael238: Correct. The only reason I didnt use BHOL was it would be fixed and wouldn't dissipate over time, which would be a pain to work around when building a fusion reactor. The only thing I didn't count on was all the whining about fusion producing SING(oh, BOO-HOO just deal with it!).

@nmd: Sorry, but I will not support replacing SING with GPMP in CO2(or any other)fusion. This is tied in with the reason I decided to make OXYG only fuse in a gravity field: It was an attempt to placate those who complained that fusion created SING too readily by making it hard for fusion to progress to a stage that could actually produce significant quantities of SING. Replacing SING with GPMP will only render my attempt at damage-control useless, as the GPMP will trigger OXYG fusion.

I really think SING should be removed... Fusion is impractical otherwise, and besides, TPT's not meant to be realistic.

@Michael238 (View Post)

 think about how boring TPT would be if everything acted like it should IRL

@BoredInSchool (View Post)

 but think about it: Hydrogen fusion trigers Noble fusion which triggers Carbon dioxide fusion which fuses into oxegen. Why shouldn't the final stage where Oxegen fuses into broken metl be possible without GBMB

and i made a mistake, I ment GBMB, not GPMP