Art not allowed on front page?

  • Niven
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    I like @R3APER idea of putting a limit on the number of art saves on fp as a compromise. Personally, i don't care what's decided to do since I don't make art, but, for those who those who think that it's unfair for art to not be on fp, you should remember 2 things:
    1. tpt was never designed for art, its a particle simulator

    2. While art can be nice to look at, thats it. You can look at it and thats all. Other saves actually have uses and can are interactive. Art on fp causes saves with uses, to be less popular than they would otherwise. Thats prolly what the mods think when they say art shouldn't be on fp.
  • randalserrano
    16th Jul 2012 Member 3 Permalink

    Personally, I think there should be "interactive" art like the art that @BuysDB makes allowed on the front page. Or perhaps the art that isnt just diamond and deco layer (meaning using the particles' natural colors to make art). The deco layer is meant to make interactive saves look better and realistic. The machine guns and all of @BuysDB's creations are a perfect example of how a deco layer was meant to be used. I know that most of the people on here including the people that came up with the deco layer in the first place would agree. I could make "diamond" art pretty easily and it would actually be halfway decent. But try making a factory that has rusty pipes and a dark and damp feel to it that actually functions and does something. That is both artistry and  good use of the powder toys elements. 

     

    Example of interactive art:

    Interactive art (BuysDB Deut synthesis plant)

  • R3APER
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    @boxmein (View Post)
    I think ponies are constructive... under certain context of course... D:

    Edit: I removed the rest of this paragraph because it made no sense.
  • jenn4
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    @randalserrano (View Post)
    Yes. If you just have a block of DMND which you deco to be cool, I understand that mods and devs feel that their work isn't appreciated, because people only use one element which does nothing. Example of this kind of save could be my lamborghini (Yes, it's not fully DMND, I had to add lights and exhaust pipe so Ximon returned it back to FP.). That type of saves can be blocked from FP, it's fine to me. Then, where is the line between approvement, and block? I think it should be that if the save does something, or you can make it do something, no matter how much deco there is, it should be approved. This post is also valid on non-deco art. Examples of art I think should still be approved to be on fp: This is made from realistic elements, has nearly everything decoed, can be burn, destroyen, etc, you can make it function with normal elements, even if it doesn't "function" very much on itself. Then I have another example: This save is an art save, but it does something, in this case copies what normal cars do, so it has function and so forth it should be allowed to be on fp, as I believe that it was. If you want to do just DMND+deco art, and pubish it on TPT, it probably will be deleted from fp, but if you do saves just for fp, they probably wont come so good. And then, I still recommend TPT artists to make a dA account and join in dA-TPT, in order to share your art saves in place where people would appreciate them more, much more.
  • R3APER
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    I can provide a rubric on how a possible art save is to be evaluated, for the Moderators in case a save is borderlined on uselessness, so that way it can be added into the rules for front page issues/general guidelines.

    1: No solid material with decor over top. This will immediately make the given save eligible for removal.
    2: Must not be a save in regards to joining or supporting a given cause/campaign.
    3: Must provide legitimate information regarding a subject non art related.
    4: Must involve certain reactions, not necessarily elemental but a series of steps leading up to a physical course of action, rather than a static page.
    5: Must be considered as having a greater purpose than that of a pure simple piece of artwork, as in a specific entitlement that denotes the save having uses other than public display for the arts.
    6: The only acceptable use of "art" or "artwork" is when the art is accompanied by another piece of save involving something other than artwork, or when the artwork is used properly to depict complex of otherwise difficult abstract thoughts. You know what they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.
  • Finalflash50
    16th Jul 2012 Banned 4 Permalink
    This post is hidden because the user is banned
  • Poorsoft
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @Finalflash50 (View Post)

    Agreed. There's only a very few amount of sites, that have a deco tool like TPT as well. It's way easier, for instance, making art on TPT then Paint.

    Then again, I'm for the rule also, even though making art has helped me get some front pages.. It was finding my way around the deco tool.

    So, if not art, how about texturers and gradients? (not y-intercept .. lol.)

  • jenn4
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink
    @R3APER (View Post)
    No. Why you couldn't have deco over solid elements? That basically the idea of decoration editor in first place, to be able to decorate boring blocks of stuff to look cool. First implemention of decoration editor was totally independent from elements.
  • circovik
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @Finalflash50 (View Post)

    I agree, art is made with care, it takes people hours to make it and they should get a reward for what they made. Good art lots of attention. Bad art little or no attention.

  • Fast-Driver
    16th Jul 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @jenn4 (View Post)

     Thanks for showing my car :D I think I'll make more now! :D

     

    I have to agree, Powder Toy isn't Paint, we should make functional stuff that actually uses elements to their full potential. I remember when SPNG could move, the front page was full of "rockets and moving UFOs" which were poorly made but appealed to the unexperienced masses.

Locked by doxin: derp