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Subframe Lesson 101 by mark2222

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5th Jan 2018
17th Sep 2018
First of a series of subframe tutorials. This aims to be a gentler and more interactive introduction than LBPHacker's preliminaries save.
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Comments

  • DUC
    DUC     11th Jan 2018
    ... continued. Operations, however, that would normally take several frames, and now only take one, I would define as subframe. The movement of PSTN forward and back in one frame, or the creation and removal of a particle in one frame, etc. are examples. And they all require solid spark. Which is why I hold that solid spark is the foundation for subframe electronics.
  • DUC
    DUC     11th Jan 2018
    @lamyipfu I don't thank one can define subframe like that. Even though subframe literally means "multiple operations in one frame," I do not believe it can be taken literally. If a save has more than one particle, there are necessarily more than one operation per frame. Many of them are not intended, and are not vital to the purpose of the save. I would classify FILT operations as an incidental operation. continued...
  • TheCARNUFEX
    TheCARNUFEX     11th Jan 2018
    That's why we have reddit.
  • TheCARNUFEX
    TheCARNUFEX     11th Jan 2018
    Don't post saves with text only.
  • lamyipfu
    lamyipfu     11th Jan 2018
    @DUC, is subframe defined to be the usage of solid sprk? I loosely use the concept of subframe by completing all ARAY-FILT operations within one frame, but the circuit only updates every 8 frames to save space/avoid conv. Does it count? They are not solid-sprk-sbfrm, but distinct from normal serial-circuit as usually a simple modification makes them sld-spk-sbfrm. Maybe use weak and strong(default) subframe as indicator? What do you think?
  • DUC
    DUC     11th Jan 2018
    Concepts like solid spark are easy to identify, whereas with classical electronics, you can range anywhere from battery and metal to a full computer, with so many degrees in between. Besides, I was suggesting we classify subframe creations because that would make it a lot easier to make a collection of them.
  • DUC
    DUC     11th Jan 2018
    @NoVIcE Well, first of all it's kinda hard to classify 'classical' electronics because there are so many degrees of complexity it makes it near impossible. But subframe has concepts that are more concrete and more definable; subframe is more like building blocks that you put together. Because subframe operates all in one frame, there is little time involved, which makes subframe 2 dimensional instead of three.
  • NoVIcE
    NoVIcE     10th Jan 2018
    @DUC we dont classify 'classical' electronics, why should we do it with subframe?
  • TheNik
    TheNik     10th Jan 2018
    There is more than text in there, though. ;-)
  • MrMayhem
    MrMayhem     10th Jan 2018
    "Don't make saves with text only!"