Compression = BHOL is getting annoying!

  • Nab1929
    17th Jun 2012 Banned 2 Permalink
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  • Michael238
    17th Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    I just tried that, but no BHOL formed.

  • _kinloch_
    17th Jun 2012 Member 2 Permalink

    The title of this topic should be changed to: Compression = BHOL is getting  very annoying!

     

    I hvae found a lot of broken saves because of it and also a bug where fighters will turn into bhol if they put there heads together.

    what good thing is added by the fix?

    only an new way of makeing bhol which replaces something way more useful especily as bhol can be made using the element menues.

    And if people wanted to make bhol then why would they use the console?

    If the reason it was removed is because it would cause probolems later on then what are the problems?

    how would it cause problems?

    why was it removed now when as far as I know the probolems havnt happend?

    I think compresion turning to bhol should be only as an option.

     

     

    I think the compresion to bhol should be removed/added as an option only because it breaks loads of saves(one was on the front page) and it causes loads more bugs that are more troublesome than the compresion.

  • grandmaster
    17th Jun 2012 Member 2 Permalink

    Just remove the whole BHOL think cause it's absolutely useless, it doesn't serves a purpose except for ruining saves on the moment, although that's what it looks like

  • epicksl
    17th Jun 2012 Member 1 Permalink

    I agree the BHOL problem is annoying. So many new updates! it is like every time i log on, there is an update that fixes some minor thing... much to the dispair of many.

  • Fast-Driver
    17th Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @billion57 (View Post)

    Yeah, the BHOL thing SUCKS

     

    BHOL SUCKS

     

    LOL!

    @cracker64 (View Post)

     Yes, when you guys fixed the gas wall and cctvdude99 went mad. xD

     

    The black hole thing doesn't bother me at all.

  • jacksonmj
    17th Jun 2012 Developer 0 Permalink
    A list of things which sometimes form BHOL but shouldn't. These will be fixed soon (for some of them, probably by changing the reactions slightly so that compression doesn't occur).

    Edit: All of them have now been fixed in the code on github.

    • ELEC with: NEUT, water (all types), or glass
    • Fusion
    • CO2 from BUBW
    • BOMB sparks
    • FIGH
    • stickmen and fighters cause stacking of powders and liquids (and fall through many powders as though they aren't there...)

    I have been unable to find any way of getting BHOL from DEUT (with no ELEC present), or moving sponge. If these do actually form BHOL, an example save would be helpful. I would also be interested to hear about any other situations not listed here where formation of BHOL occurs during normal reactions.

    @_kinloch_ (View Post)
    The problems that can be caused by allowing compressed particles were explained in another thread, which I think you must have read because you posted in it?
  • Nab1929
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  • Raphi
    17th Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    @Nab1929 (View Post)

    I tried that also short time ago and my SPNG didn't move, too.

    When I opened a save moving SPNG, it worked properly.

  • LiquidCaesium
    17th Jun 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    You cannot make sponges move anymore, however old saves with moving sponge still work.

     

    e: @jacksonmj Count in stickmen. Put them in a pool full of any liquid, and let them stay in place. BHOL is formed. Also, putting them in a pool of NITR and THRM as floor will sometimes cause TWO BHOLs, so that guides that explosions are also broken sometimes.