SOPA
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Well, by the way it looks at the moment, we're more likely to end up in "Brave New World" society than a "1984" society.But either way, fuck.
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@Lynxrufus (View Post)Yes, and we'll effectively lose our right for freedom of speech over the net. Anything the corporations don't like, they can shut down and just make an excuse about it.Anything.
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Hey, I'm curious...Do any of the idiots actually talking about this realize that this law will be implemented in the same country where you can overturn the goddamn laws the government makes by writing a letter (ever heard of those?) to a congressman or senator?Or has no one realized this?Cripes, I'm sick of "Government take-over" this and "SOPA" that and "Oh dear god we're going to lose Facebook AURRGH" idiocy. There are hundreds of ways this law can be overturned, Vetoed, or simply rejected. Yet, all I see on forums are "GOVERNMENT TAKING OVER INTERNET EVERYONE PANIC!" threads.If people spent as much time participating in the system as they did writing conspiracy theories on the internet we might actually have a functioning government for the first time in 200 years.End of rant.
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Any site that condones piracy is illegal anyway. Piracy is illegal. Inducing a person to commit a crime is illegal. If I go out and say to someone "go rob that bank" and that person robs it, I'll be charged with "conspiracy to commit robbery". So I'd be a criminal even though I wouldn't have been the one who pointed the gun at the banker and demanded money.
Same idea here. And so no I'm not against SOPA. It's about time that "online" laws caught up with already existing "offline" laws.
Telling someone to commit a crime is a crime, not free speech. If I make a website that says go to such and such a website if you want a free copy of Photoshop, then I'm committing a crime by telling someone else to commit a crime. So I'm not protected by the constitution. If I ever did the offline equivalent I sure wouldn't be able to depend on the constitution to save me. Why should I be able to get away with it on the internet when I wouldn't be able to get away with it when talking to someone in person? If I do that online I should EXPECT to have my website shut down. In fact until I heard about SOPA, I thought that's the way it ALREADY WAS in EXISTING LAW.
Oh, and those who worry about Youtube going bye bye, you are full of crap. Youtube ALREADY states very clearly in the terms of service that you must NOT post copyrighted material. And ALREADY movie companies have the power to dictate how their copyright will be enforced on Youtube, everything from running certain ads on videos that have copyrighted content, to blocking the video from some countries, to blocking it from all countries, to removing videos with copyrighted content and giving the video poster an infraction point. Youtube's software is already capable of enforcing these copyright protection measures and already does so (I already had one of my Youtube accounts suspended for having posted 3 copyrighted videos from various companies who's policy happened to be to have Youtube remove the video and give an infraction point for each copyrighted video, and I got 3 infraction points so that account "got the ban hammer" if you know what I mean). Yes Youtube already enforces the level of copyright protection of each company as that company wishes, so they are ALREADY in compliance with anything that SOPA might demand. -
@Videogamer555 (View Post)Yes, but that's not why everyone should be scared. The reason people should be scared is because SOPA will give corporations the right to shut down effectively any website they want at their discretion.Say a website, completely legal, posts a review on a movie made by a corporation. If it's a bad review, who's to say the corporation might not want to censor it?This is why we should be scared.
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@airstrike52 (View Post)Once again, you're being so paranoid it isn't even funny.You sound like one of those idiots who have theories that the earth is on a collision course with another planet and the US government is going to send all the rich people to Norway where they'll be safe. Some giant corporation is not going to shut down the internet because we badmouth their product, that would be incredibly stupid, even for Americans.Imagine this law actually passed, and was not overturned by the populace. I estimate maybe...7 websites hut down.
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It is not just the current websites that we are worried about, but future websites. people who invest in upcoming domains typically expect a 17 times profit from their initial investment. With these two bills, there is no guarentee that the websites that they pour their money into will live; forget about thrive. As a result, the next google, youtube, 4chan, facebook, reddit, twitter, and thousands of others will not recieve the investments they need to start up, and therefore no longer exist.
