liquid hydrogen and/or helium?

  • wes12321
    7th Dec 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    can anyone else please give me their thoughts? or should i forget about the suggestions i made?

  • cyberdragon442
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  • Incredy
    7th Dec 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Nice Idea. +1.

  • BoredInSchool
    7th Dec 2012 Member 1 Permalink

    Helium is a noble gas, and there is already a NBLE element. There really isn't any reason to add helium because NBLE already does most everything a helium element could do. As for the liquid hydrogen and liquid helium, those sound good(but replace liquid helium with liquid NBLE instead).

  • NF
    7th Dec 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    I got a go with BoredInSchool and i really think Liquid Helium don't exsist yet! but i do like the i do like the idea of LNBL (Liquid Noble) Liquid Hydrogen is Water and Oxygen+Hydrogen=Water.

  • AC
    7th Dec 2012 Member 0 Permalink

    Would the element have a higher boiling point under high pressure, like with water and other liquids? Because if it really is explosive, wouldn't it just change to gas before it can even ignite? The gas form of hydrogen isn't as explosive as the liquid one you're suggesting.

  • wes12321
    3rd Feb 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    yeah i know, thats why it should be added, because liquid hydrogen is mabey 10 times more explosive than gaseous hydrogen. (i'm not sure about 10 times more powerful, but it is definatley stronger)

     in response to what BoredInSchool said about heium being a noble gas and the liquid noble, i am not sure that liquid noble, which is basically all the noble gases, would act the same as liquid helium, because the CERN Particle Accelerator in europe uses liquid helium to cool the huge SuperConductor Quadrupole magnets ( there are probably 2000 of these alone, but there are also a couple hundred dipole magnets that keep the atom from crashing into the walls of the particle tube)that actually push atoms to a speed that is 3 meteres per second slower than the speed of light. Liquid helium is strange, because it actually crawls over surfaces to equalize potential difference, and when i say crawl, i mean move up a vertical surface and distribute itself evenly

    but yes, liquid hydrogen would most likely vaporize before you could ignite it with fire, so in that case, if it is pressurized, it cannot expand to accomidate a liquid and gas in the same space, because gaseous hydrogen is twice as dense as liquid hydrogen

  • cj646464
    3rd Feb 2013 Member 1 Permalink

    Listen here, It doesn't matter if helium is a noble gas.   Do you think tpt is realistic in everything?  For all that tpt cares, Helium would have unusual properties that aren't realistic.   All realistic facts and properties don't matter.

  • wes12321
    5th Feb 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    i know tpt is not very realistic in eveything, but to me it seems some people are perfectionists, and despise the idea of having an element do something completely different from real life

    *COUGH-COUGH*

    *COUGH-COUGH-COUGH!*

    *Hint*

     

     

    @ NUCLEAR FOX 

    liquid Hydrogen is not water, but can be mixed in a 2 to 1 ratio with liquid oxygen and heated to produce the right amount of O2 and H2 to create water

  • jklujm
    6th Feb 2013 Member 0 Permalink

    Whoa whoa whoa. You do realize -273.15 C is absolute zero? I know TPT isn't realistic, but it is realistic enough to have hydrogen turn into a liquid at roughly the correct temperature. In real life, abloute zero is impossible, yet we have created liquid hydrogen.