Gallium, High thermal mass

  • Catelite
    6th September Moderator 0 Permalink
    I mean, it's unlikely we'll have an entire extra element added if it does nothing itself that other elements don't already do, that doesn't fulfill a helpful function which other elements already fill?
  • jacob1
    6th September Developer 2 Permalink
    Basically what the element does from a coding perspective is actively resists heat changes. That's not similar at all to HEAC. This element takes a lot of energy to heat / cool, something that can't be done by setting HeatConduct (this seems to "destroy" heat to do what it does). It also has HeatConduct set to 255 though, so i'm unsure how it works in practice.

    No idea how useful or helpful it would be, but that is what it does.

    Also since this is a liquid form ... should there be a solid form?
    Edited 3 times by jacob1. Last: 6th September
  • jombo23
    6th September Member 0 Permalink

    @jacob1 (View Post)



    It does have a solid form that solidifies at galliums melting point.


    also as you saw it takes the difference between the last frames heat and the new frames heat >> 2 add to previous heat.

    Edited once by jombo23. Last: 6th September
  • Ben_Ger
    7th September Member 1 Permalink

    Isnt this similar to.. liquid quartz?

    It resists thermal change and such and from what I could tell, it would work as a semi insulator.

    Regardless, since I do not know what it actually effects:
    I assume that if you heat gallium up to 1000 degrees, it would give off 10 times as much heat as, say, glow does before both reach the same temperature.

    Immediate uses (of course only if I am correct) include:
    -Bombs (having superheated Gallium act as thermal shrapnel)

    -Armor (Combining it with Vibranium could net astounding results)

    -variable heat resistor (thickness of gallium)

    -heat reservoirs (Self explanatory, you could store extreme amounts of energy inside it to buffer systems)


    So, my judgement (which has no weight whatsoever in the inclusion but I will voice it anyway) is:
    Add it, but give it a bit of a different coloration.

  • jombo23
    7th September Member 1 Permalink

    @Ben_Ger (View Post)



    What color should it be.


    Also quartz does not do this.


    its default is 4x the thermal mass. It could be bumped up to 8 or 16 times in order to have a more usable effect.

  • Ben_Ger
    7th September Member 0 Permalink

    @jombo23 (View Post)

     Obviously, quartz doesnt do exactly that, but it acts as a thermal buffer.

    As for color, I would actually suggest a color similar to titanium. Something like a light grey (with a sheen to it, so it looks a bit like mercury, givent hat gallium shines so nicely.)

  • Potbelly
    7th September Member 0 Permalink

    So, if I am getting this right, this liquid can store heat.


    When you heat it by 10 degrees, it actually heats up by 2 degrees.

    When it then conducts heat away to things, it loses only 20% of the heat that it is actually conducting away.

    Therefore, this element can store more heat, is not comparable to HEAC, GLOW - moderator and admin misunderstand the meaning of thermal mass.


    EDIT: I'm going to touch this and play around with it and give it the observation it deserves.


    The concept of this is great, because there is no other way to store heat like this. This would be the perfect way to store heat, implying the code works right enough. I wonder how it would be charged and discharged at will.


    Advice concept:

    Under pressure, it cools off, while the pressure equalizes as well.

    Under negative pressure, it releases the stored heat, while also equalizing the pressure.

    Edited once by Potbelly. Last: 7th September
  • Catelite
    7th September Moderator 0 Permalink
    Vibranium can store heat and pressure, it's just broken at the moment. =P
  • jacob2
    7th September Member 0 Permalink
    @Catelite (View Post)
    How is vibranium broken? It works as designed as far as I'm aware. It absorbs heat and pressure. It does "release" it when exploding but this part doesn't work well. It's not designed to store and release heat.
  • jombo23
    8th September Member 0 Permalink


    @Catelite (View Post)
    How is vibranium broken? It works as designed as far as I'm aware. It absorbs heat and pressure. It does "release" it when exploding but this part doesn't work well. It's not designed to store and release heat.



    yes i dont think @Catelite understands the concept behind this.




    Yes it resists both heating and cooling changes. for example, 4 parts of 200 degree water and 1 part 0 degree gallium would equal 100 degrees.


    Reverse would be 1 part 200 degree gallium and 4 parts 0 degree water would be 100 degrees as well.